Amplifi Instant and compatibility with Verizon Fios?

  • My father's fios internet comes through a normal coax cable, as most fios installs do. How can this configuration be used with the Amplifi Instant router? I see 2 options

    1. call Verizon and have them change the internet wan from coax to Ethernet cable(id like to avoid this).
    2. use the existing Verizon box (router+switch+wifi), turn off the WiFi, and plug the Amplifi into a switch port. That way the Verizon box does router and switch duty, amplifi does WiFi

    I'm really not familiar with mesh systems so don't know if 2) is feasible or will take a big performance hit

  • @david-rifkin Option 2 is the route you need to go. AmpliFi does not work as a modem, so having a modem or modem/router combo from Verizon and placing either that device or AmpliFi into bridge mode is needed.

  • @ubnt-brett This is not totally correct .. the HD works fine with FIOS, straight from the ONT as a router. You are correct that the Instant isn't a "modem" but FIOS doesn't have a modem like cable. The ONT handles that, and everyone who has FIOS has an ONT. I assume the Instant works the same way.

    I haven't used my FIOS router/gateway in over a year since they started supporting this. As a side note all consumer routers will work. I used an Airport Extreme the same way before getting my HD.

    So yes the "right" way to do it is option one, or you can use a Moca Adapter (maybe - I've never done this myself)

    Number 2 will also work but then you're paying full price for the router to run it in bridge mode .. that's your call.

  • @david-rifkin The coax will work as long as you're pulling 100mb and under. According to FIOS, anything over that needs to be switched to ONT via ethernet.

    Either way, what you're going to do as I have, is log into your fios MoCa router settings. the user name and password should be on the router. once logged in, turn off the wifi and select bridge mode. Then ethernet from the FIOS LAN to the Amplifi WAN. Power off then on the FIOS router, in addition to the amplifi. you should be good to go.

  • @gregory-coan-0
    Its also important to note that if you have TV service through FIOS then the Gateway router would need to be left in place. It provides over the air updates and communicates info to the set-top-boxes via coax, like the guide, widgets and On demand.

  • @roy-davidson Actually a MOCA adapter is the standard method to ditch the FiOS routers if you have TV service. It injects data via ethernet back into the coax so you can keep your guide, DVR and ondemand features.

    You just lose the ability to view your DVR shows remotely and the on-screen telephone numbers when you get a phone call.

  • @ui-brett I know nothing about networking. I currently have the rented Verizon router/modem. Coverage in my house sucks and I’ve made my way to the AmoliFi mesh system to fix it. How do I get it to work with Verizon Fios? I understand having to turn off the WiFi on my Verizon Fios router, but how do I do that? Do i then have to do something on the Ubiquiti end?

  • @dov-blutstein How to configure your Verizon Fios equipment into bridge mode you would need to contact Verizon for, just because I am not familiar with all of their equipment and settings. What I can help you with is understanding what needs to be done and what to do on AmpliFi.

    You will only want one router functioning on your network. Sometimes, its required to leave your ISP equipment as the router and not place it into bridge mode. In that case (Which Verizon is one of those providers in some cases) you will want to follow this article for placing AmpliFi into bridge mode.

    Let me know how everything goes!

  • @UI-Brett If I turned off the wireless on the Fios router and ran a Cat5 to my AMPLIFI, why does my internet constantly go in and out? I have 4 sticks throughout my 3 floors (home is 2300 sq feet) and I’m constantly losing internet. My Fios is the top level speed they offer.

  • @Jeff-Zuchowski I'm a total newbie, but I expect you need to completely remove your old Verizon router. Run the ethernet cable straight from your Ubiquiti router to the ONT.
    Don't take it for me, check this out:
    Or this post

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