Do not purchase AmpliFi HD Mesh System. It sucks.


  • I have two level flat: 82 square meters first flour and 35 second. In total it is 117 square meters. After short review decided to purchase AmpliFi HD Mesh system as I have a lot of WiFi smart devices. Like on picture from setup guide I put main router into one side of a first flour, firs mesh into another side of first flour, second mesh on second flour right on top of a router position. And guess what? Connection between router and second mesh is 4%. Speedtest on first flour shows 94 mbps while on second 4 mbps. 4 Karl!!!!
    When I was purchasing this product I was told that it can easily cover 3 levels house. Now I can say that it can work OK only on the same level. IF you have more that 1 flour - forget. I was trying to put router into a different positions. The only success I achieve when I put my router on stairs. But that's not a long time fix. Also you can not purchase another mash to put on stairs instead of a router because AmpliFi do not support manual chain building, it always connect my mesh points to that same router. So you need to consider that your router need to be always on stairs or to purchase several routers, but that it is much better to purchase another product.


  • Sending two screenshots with speedtest. First one - device connected to router by Ethernet, second - device connected to mesh system that has good connection.
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  • What firmware version is your AmpliFi HD system on?


  • 3.3.0 latest


  • Hi @Vasyl-Khmil - have you tried rolling the firmware back to v3.1.2?

    There seems to be a lot of issues being reported for v3.3.0 and wireless MeshPoint performance


  • Reverted to 3.1.2. Still very bad connection with first and second flour. Regarding speed - will tell later, as need time to test.


  • Hi @Vasyl-Khmil - AmpliFi routers do not have dedicated backhaul radios, so you will likely see throughput cut roughly in half for a wireless MeshPoint

    What kind of coverage do you get with just the HD router and no MeshPoints?

    You might want to then test with a single MeshPoint online before plugging in a second one

    Every environment is different, but three access points seems like overkill for the size of your place unless you have some very challenging internal structures

    I personally would have suggested to start with one standalone HD router, checked the coverage, and then potentially add a second standalone HD router if your home needed it, checked the coverage again to see if a third access point was really necessary, and go from there

    But it is very hard to predict up front...


  • @Vasyl-Khmil At the time of this test, what was your connection strength to the mesh point, and what band was it connected to, 2.4 or 5Ghz? You can find these statistics in under Devices > Select your device from the list > Client Details> under Access point, band and connection strength.

    We could be facing some interference in the area of that meshpoint, so identifying the devices connectivity to the mesh point is also important and we can look at updating the channel your network is using, based on an environment scan.

    Also, as @Derek-Saville mentioned, others are reporting this on 3.3.0 but if you are still seeing a bad connection on 3.1.2 I would be interested in seeing what your devices statistics are, as mentioned above.


  • @UI-Brett the strength to mesh point was 80%. I was located 2 meters from it without any wall between. This mesh use 5ghz.


  • @Derek-Saville One router is ok for first flour but do not give good connection on second. The main aim is to get good internet coverage on second flour while router is located on first one.


  • @Vasyl-Khmil If you were only 2 meters away from the meshpoint, and only at 80% there is more than likely some interference in that area, could be wireless, electrical, physical but lets see if you can identify what's causing it. Try unplugging devices in the area, or performing a wifi analyzer scan to identify possible interference.


  • @UI-Brett This is probably my smart sockets, but that is the other idea why I purchase such an expensive HD router. To be able to handle all my smart devices


  • @Vasyl-Khmil If you can identify what channels are primarily used in your house, you can use the app to update what AmpliFi uses to help reduce the overlap and interference: https://help.amplifi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039339174-Changing-Wireless-Broadcast-Channels-


  • @UI-Brett Do you really think this is the problem why I got dropped 98% of speed and why I have a pure signal on second flour?


  • @UI-Brett Im more than ok if I will get 50% of router speed ~45mbps, but not 0.5


  • @Vasyl-Khmil It could be, its difficult to say but I have seen interference really ruin connections and performance. Thru a one hop meshpoint, you should be able to achieve 50-100 mbps depending on connection strength and mesh point connection strength.


  • @UI-Brett How can I achieve a good connection on second flour?


  • The only success I achieve when I put my router on stairs.

    Hi @Vasyl-Khmil - what is the construction material of the flooring between your first floor and the second floor?

    It could be that the floor construction contains materials that significantly block WiFi signals?

    Have you had a previous router on the first floor which provided acceptable WiFi signal on the second floor?

    If you leave the router on the first floor running v3.1.2 and unplug both MeshPoints (take them offline), what signal strength do you see on clients at various positions on the second floor?

    If you want to be more thorough, you can create a separate 2.4 GHz SSID on the router, test signal strength on the second floor, then repeat the test using a separate 5 GHz SSID

    If the WiFi signal is being blocked between floors, neither the clients or the MeshPoints will perform well

    Or you may find that 2.4 GHz has better signal between floors at particular location, then you can install a MeshPoint there, but choose 2.4 GHz for the backhaul signal

    You clients can still connect to the MeshPoint using 5 GHz, but the MeshPoint will talk to the main router over a potentially stronger 2.4 GHz signal

    ...second mesh on second flour right on top of a router position

    MeshPoints especially and the HD's in general do not perform well trying to communicate in the vertical direction

    It's better to have lateral separation between them as well as the vertical separation

    Do you have the original style MeshPoints with the ball joint so you can aim them?

    Or do you have the new style MeshPoints that can only pivot?

    If you have the older ball joint style design, you can play with aiming them at the router, and make minor adjustments in the router position and orientation (keeping it away from walls if possible, and rotating it) to try and improve the signal

    Little adjustments can have a big affect on the signal strength

    How can I achieve a good connection on second flour?

    Do you have any option to run an Ethernet cable from the first floor to the second floor?

    The best AmpliFi solution is to put a second standalone HD router on the second floor (preferably on the opposite side of the home) with a wired Ethernet backhaul cable connected to the main HD router

    This works very well as a mesh with very good performance, but you will might find out that you don't need the additional MeshPoints from the kit, and having too many MeshPoints can also cause issues


  • @Derek-Saville

    • It could be that the floor construction contains materials that significantly block WiFi signals?
    • Concrete
    • Have you had a previous router on the first floor which provided acceptable WiFi signal on the second floor?
    • This is the first router in flat. That's the reason why I purchased AmpliFi as is is well known company specialised on good signal
    • If you leave the router on the first floor running v3.1.2 and unplug both MeshPoints (take them offline), what signal strength do you see on clients at various positions on the second floor?
    • First flout 70+%, second flour 15%. Speedtest show same result as with mesh points
    • If you want to be more thorough, you can create a separate 2.4 GHz SSID on the router, test signal strength on the second floor, then repeat the test using a separate 5 GHz SSID
    • Already done, result is the same

    If the WiFi signal is being blocked between floors, neither the clients or the MeshPoints will perform well

    Or you may find that 2.4 GHz has better signal between floors at particular location, then you can install a MeshPoint there, but choose 2.4 GHz for the backhaul signal

    • You clients can still connect to the MeshPoint using 5 GHz, but the MeshPoint will talk to the main router over a potentially stronger 2.4 GHz signal
    • Signal is the same. On 5ghz sometimes it can not even connect to the router

    ...second mesh on second flour right on top of a router position
    MeshPoints especially and the HD's in general do not perform well trying to communicate in the vertical direction

    • Lol, on box picture we can see tho levels flat. On tutorial two levels flat. In real live - doesn't perform well vertically 🙂

    It's better to have lateral separation between them as well as the vertical separation

    Do you have the original style MeshPoints with the ball joint so you can aim them?

    • Yes

    Or do you have the new style MeshPoints that can only pivot?

    • No

    If you have the older ball joint style design, you can play with aiming them at the router, and make minor adjustments in the router position and orientation (keeping it away from walls if possible, and rotating it) to try and improve the signal

    • No success

    Little adjustments can have a big affect on the signal strength

    • Not true

    How can I achieve a good connection on second flour?

    • Do you have any option to run an Ethernet cable from the first floor to the second floor?
    • There is an Ethernet, but mesh points do not have Ethernet input, only wireless.
    • The best AmpliFi solution is to put a second standalone HD router on the second floor (preferably on the opposite side of the home) with a wired Ethernet backhaul cable connected to the main HD router
    • Then I can say that mesh points are completely useless. On First flour I get a signal from router as good as from mesh point, on two flours
    • This works very well as a mesh with very good performance, but you will might find out that you don't need the additional MeshPoints from the kit, and having too many MeshPoints can also cause issues
    • Again, removing mesh point do not help, adding do not help, rotating do not help. I just want an internet in my flat. You just giving a water like "try to rotate your router" "try to find other wifi device that might slow down speed", etc. It is small changes. The main thing that you need to tell to people - mesh points do not help, better to by two routers than mesh point. It sucks

  • Concrete

    Hi @Vasyl-Khmil - concrete can be a very hard barrier for WiFi signals to penetrate and pass through


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