Newbie Totally Confused with home wifi network


  • Hello everyone, I have a

    TP-Link AC2600 Dual Band Wireless MU-MIMO Gigabit VDSL/ADSL Modem Router for Phone Line Connections (BT Infinity, TalkTalk, EE and PlusNet Fibre) 2 USB, 3.0 Ports, UK Plug (Archer VR2600)

    and wasn’t happy with its reach, so I added two of these
    TP-Link AV2000 Gigabit Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit - White (UK Plug)

    But still I had to keep moving the plugs around.

    I researched and purchased Amplifi HD and thought it would replace the TP Link system.

    I quickly realised that the Amplifi router needs to be connected to the TP-Link AC2600.

    So now I have the amplify router connected and located next to my -Link AC2600 and the range extenders and amplify plugs all over the house.

    The connectable wifi networks are now

    Amplifi HD
    TP-Link AC2600
    Range extender 1
    Range Extender 2

    I’m tying myself in knots

    I have a lot of kit, but need advice on how best to set it up to optimise performance, ideally in one network. If this is possible. Or another way. I don’t know.

    Please bear in mind there are no opportunities to move the modem or hard wire anything.
    The house is 3 floors, with TP-Link AC2600/Amplifu router on ground floor, Ground floor has a large extension at back also.

    If anyone could give me a step by step in newbie terms that would be so helpful and I would be very grateful.

    Many thanks,
    Taff


  • @taffytimps said in Newbie Totally Confused with home wifi network:

    So now I have the amplify router connected and located next to my -Link AC2600 and the range extenders and amplify plugs all over the house.

    Bridge mode on either the TP link or on your AmpliFi system will be needed, so you will just want to decide which platform you want to use primarily to manage your network.

    secondly, too much wifi can be a bad thing. The AmpliFi mesh system will help guide you to learn the best place for your AmpliFi mesh points, but it can only calculate placement each meshpoint back to the router, it will not guide you on where to place your TP link extenders.

    My suggestion would be start from the ground and work up. Disable WiFi on your TP link, remove all extenders and mesh points and just have wifi broadcasting from AmpliFi. Survey your home with your mobile phone or other wireless devices to identify deadspots and weak coverage and add mesh points one at a time, and survey again. That way you can be sure you dont create a ton of overlap and interference.


  • Hi Brett, could I for example keep the tp link and put both extenders on the ground floor and then put the mesh points on the 1st and 2nd floor. I guess I'm no better off in terms of number of wifi networks.

    So are you saying it is impossible to have all of the hardware on one wifi network?

    One final possibility, is it possible for the mesh router and two mesh points to be wireless satellites of the tp link router?


  • @taffytimps said in Newbie Totally Confused with home wifi network:

    keep the tp link and put both extenders on the ground floor and then put the mesh points on the 1st and 2nd floor.

    The mesh points from the AmpliFi system will not communicate with the TP link router or TP extenders (since your AmpliFi system is a kit) So you could possibly configure it this way if the meshpoints are still within range of the AmpliFi rotuer

    So are you saying it is impossible to have all of the hardware on one wifi network?

    No, it can all be one network, AmpliFi or TP link will have to be in bridge mode which creates 1 Subnet (one network) because there is only one brain operating on the network.

    is it possible for the mesh router and two mesh points to be wireless satellites of the tp link router?

    No, just because in an AmpliFi kit, the mesh points need to communicate to the AmpliFi router and do not have a 3rd party extender mode.

    One solution for your situation is to purchase any stand alone AmpliFI product to just expand upon what network hardware you already have. The problem you are facing is that you purchased the Kit, which is designed to be a whole home WiFi solution and replace your existing router. If you just add a stand alone AmpliFi in extender mode, it may work better for your environment. OR if possible just use AmpliFi bridged to the TP link primary router and remove the TP Link extenders (if that will cover your entire home with WiFi)


  • So are you saying it is impossible to have all of the hardware on one wifi network?

    HI @taffytimps - you might be able to have most of your kit on the same SSID (so your devices only see one WiFi network), but only the AmpliFi gear will work as a cooperative mesh and the range extenders would be independent access points

    One possibility...

    • Disable the WiFi on your TP-Link AC2600 Gateway
    • Put the AmpliFi HD in Bridge Mode plugged into and installed near to the TP-Link AC2600
    • Place the HD kit MeshPoints in the best locations you can find and check your WiFi coverage
    • For coverage dead spots install a TP-Link AV2000 PowerLine range extender and replicate the HD's SSID & Password, but try to minimize any overlap with the HD kit's WiFi to avoid causing roaming issues

    That should create one SSID network in your home, but how well the range extenders work with the HD's mesh is something you will have to try out and experiment with


  • @Derek-Saville thank you. as it is now.

    The amplifi mesh system is delivering enough wifi throughout the house and much better than the tp link with powerline extenders. So i am thinking best to make tp link obsolete.

    Is it as simple as unplugging the adapters and turning wifi off on the tplink router. Or do i need to put the tp link in bridge mode or something.

    One other thing. I have a hardwire to my home office at the bottom of the garden. Is that best plugged into amplifi router or tp link router. If i am keeping it operational, but without wifi.

    Hope this make sense.

    Thank you.


  • I would set the TP-Link to modem-only mode and disable WiFi on it and just use it as a modem delivering internet to your AmpliFi and let your AmpliFi to do all the routing and networking work. You would then need to connect your office to the AmpliFi as it would be the device handling your network. This would avoid you getting into trouble with double NAT and would probably be the better option unless the master (Derek) has other ideas.

    You can obviously flip this on its head and leave your TP-Link to do all the routing work and set up the AmpliFi as a bridge only with no routing capabilities. I would only do this if there are routing features that your parent router offers, that you need and that are not available on the AmpliFi.


  • @Ali-Hadi thank you. I am getting there. Is disable wifi enough or do i need to do more to make tp link modem only?


  • @taffytimps you would need to set your TP-Link to modem-only (I think TP-Link also call it Bridge Mode). I have not used TP-Link but I am sure you can find info online. Something along these lines might help:
    https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/faq/1332/

    Once you have done that, you will need to set your AmpliFi in PPPoE mode and enter your ISP's username and password into AmpliFi to connect it to the internet. Let me know if you need more help.


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